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I REALLY HATE PEOPLE THAT COME AND SEE YOU'RE PRO AND GIVE YOU A 1 ( FUCKING DOWNRATERS.)
AND ALSO PEOPLE THAT COME AND VISITE AND SAY I GIVE YOU A 10 AND NEVER DO...
I REALLY DISLIKE PEOPLE THAT ALLWAYS HAVE BAD COMMENTS...
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GOTHIC STYLEN
The term 'Goth' was used by Ian Astbury who described Andi Sex Gang as a 'gothic pixie' and popularised by the UK music magazines New Musical Express and Sounds (NME) and was used to describe a class of music.

For some people that music became the basis for a 'way of life'.

They brought their own backgrounds and interests along and a sub-culture was formed and it took for itself the name Gothic.

Subject: 1.2 What the history of the goth movement?

NME and Sounds reputedly took the term Gothic from Siouxsie Sioux (of the Banshees) who used it to describe the new direction for her band.
However the earliest significant usage of the term (as applied to music) was by Anthony H. Wilson who was overcome by a rare moment of lucidity on a 1978 BBC TV program when he described Joy Division as Gothic compared with the pop mainstream.

Perhaps Joy Division (who he was managing) are not what we now think of as Goth but it is possible that they are at the source of the term. Bauhaus were labelled as Gothic as early as 1979 when they released Bela Lugosi's Dead.

The pop journalists were quick to latch onto the term and they applied it in a nasty sort of pigeonholing way to a number of bands that were around in the early 80s - most of which did not sound much like the Banshees (or anyone else for that matter), the journalists were more concerned with looks. The (Southern Death) Cult was foremost amongst these bands, like the Banshees they wore lots of black and silver and had extreme black hair. The Sisters of Mercy were also so labelled and when they split and Wayne Hussey founded the Mission they carried their label with them, despite being different musically.

Finally The Fields of the Nephilim appeared and they (perhaps) consciously and deliberately got themselves labelled as Gothic despite looking and sounding quite different to what had previously been labelled Goth.

The fans of bands like the Sisters, Bauhaus and Siouxsie liked to dress up in lots of black. The music they liked was something of a backlash against the colourful disco music of the seventies. The Banshees were a punk band before they mellowed and punk was brathing its last as Gothdom gathered speed, and the so one could claim Gothdom grew out of punk.

The music of Joy Division, the Sisters and Bauhaus was angst ridden but all the hatred was turned inwards and the music was typified by introspective lyrics. Many of the new Goth followers were introspective too. Some were a bit confused by the label and started to think that the label Goth was in some way connected with the Victorian Gothic revival and Gothic horror and because enough of them thought that eventually it became true.

NME and Sounds were not oblivious to this and produced many hilarious articles poking fun at the Goths amongst their readers.
They said that being Goth was about sitting around in circles on the floor of pubs (bars) smoking a lot and talking about being a bat.
Some readers of this list get angry at this. Luckily most Goths have a good enough sense of humour to laugh at themselves once in a while. The first generation Goths complain that second and third generation Goths often seem to think that Gothdom is about wearing the blackest black, with a lot of silver jewellery and looking as thin and pale as possible. In common with their older bretheren they avoid the crass comercialism of mainstream rock and gather together to share their woes :-) They read Bram Stoker and Anne Rice and talk about being vampires. They read H.P. Lovecraft and talk about the end of the world. The sounds that were described as Gothic were appearing in other countries besides the UK in the late seventies, but I have yet to see any evidence that they were using the word. (If you have any...) Currently Germany is the bastion of Goth, where they are called Grufties. If German people are doing a write up on the Goth scene there, please send me a copy. So that's how we got where we are today. Today Goth is about music, literature, art and about clothes. Subject: 1.3 Is goth about religion? Gothdom embraces all religions, all denominations and all races. Many Goths are atheists and a sizable minority are new age spiritualists, Wiccans and members of other alternative religious groups. There are Christian Goths. Basically Goth is not about religion, but with the imagery of religion. May goths wear crosses or ankhs, and there are many religious references in goth songs, but it is not a religious movement. Goth uses religous imagery in some songs. Christian Death are big on this. Bauhaus did a couple of tracks with religious imagery. The Sisters have a quasi-religious name but this is ironic, their music shows that religion is not Andrew Eldritch's main concern - he prefers politics. The Mission (UK) were fairly 'new age'. Carl McCoy favoured shamanistic traditions and gnostic revelation. Religious jewellery is often worn, particularly crucifixes and ankhs. These are strong symbols with powerful subconscious effects. Sometimes they are worn as an satirical statement, sometimes not. For some it is just fashion. Subject: 1.4 What does gothic music sound like? Thanks to John Mc Donagh aka Nascent Virion for a list of what bands he though typified the Gothic sound. Some may disagree, but this is a rather decent representaion of GENERAL catagories. Original Goth: Image hostedby TinyPic.com

Bauhaus Christian Death Southern Death Cult* Joy Division (Sometimes had a Goth sound, didn't look very Goth) Sisters of Mercy Siouxsie and the Banshees Miscellaneous Goth: The Fields of The Nephilim**(Too new to be original, too old to be new) The Mission (UK) (Early stuff was considered Goth by the music press) Sex Gang Children Mellow Goth: Dead Can Dance Xmal Deutschland Danielle Dax (more poppy) Metal/Industrial Goth: Creaming Jesus (Metalish) James Rays Gangwar (Goth w/samples) (A lot of Goths listen to Ministry but they aren't really Goth) Experimental/Folky/Occult Goth: Current 93 Death In June Sol Invictus New Goth: Nosferatu, Rosetta Stone (Sisters/Mission sounding bands) Shadow Project (Off shoot of Christian Death) Clan of Xymox (Synth, almost dancey) * Southern Death Cult (SDC) later split in all directions. Only SDC are condsidered properly Gothic. However many of Southern Death Cult's Goth followers remained true even when they entered their 'The Cult' glam metal phase. ** Fields of the Nephilim were so unlike previous Goth it is amazing that they were ever considered Goth at all. Nonetheless they are one of the definitive Goth bands and most Goths took to them instantly because of their originality and talent. See "The Gothlist" by Corey for a much more complete list of goth bands. See 'Subject: 2.2 Where are the gothic FTP sites?' for more detail on how to get a copy. Subject: 1.5 So what does the word 'goth' mean. The word 'Goth' does indeed refer to a tribe of the indo-european kind. The Goths slowly integrated into the melting pot of Europe and basically disappeared. The word 'gothic' is first found in common usage in 1611, referring mainly to an 'uncivilized lack of taste or education'. The people who built in the 'gothic' style would have never used this term. These people were monks or artisans who worked for the church to build a land of Cathedrals from the 11th century on. They also built castles and other edifices. The 16th century saw a large amount of turmoil with the reform and all. This opened up the architecture field quite a bit. This new wave of artists looked back on what they saw as a bland repetitive style of architecture as 'gothic'. Unfortunatly, because of the shallowness of the learned men at that time, it stuck. It was also referred to as Ogive - or the characteristic arch of this style - this word is usually used by most politically correct historians. The fact is: Ogive architecture today is extremely inspiring and beautiful. The nameless men who designed and built these works of grandor were very talented and inspired. One merely has to look at the Cathedral of Chartres, Paris, Amiens, Canterbury or any of the other edifices of this age to realize irony of using 'gothic'. In fact, to augment the irony, the popular opinion today is that much of the baroque architecture of the 17th and 18th centuries is gaudy and flamboyant.

Deze pagina is gewijdt aan de verschillende gothic stijlen, om duidelijker te maken dat gothic kleding niet hetzelfde inhoud. Antiquity De antiquity stijl is de meest voorkomende kledingstijl onder goths. Antiquity kleding (onder te verdelen in verschillende stijlen zoals medival en victorian) wordt gekenmerkt door lange, vaak wijde gewaden. Deze kledingstijl grijpt terug op kledingstijlen uit het verleden, zoals de middeleeuwen en het Britse Victoriaanse tijdperk. Kant, tule, voile, fluweel en velours zijn veel gebruikte stoffen. Het korset in combinatie met een lange rok, in middeleeuwse/ Victoriaanse stijl wordt veel gedragen door vrouwelijke goths. Antiquity De kleur van de kleding kan vari�ren van zwart, aubergine, rood en in mindere mate, groen, blauw en wit. Dit is afhankelijk van de persoonlijke voorkeur van de persoon zelf. Kanten of fluwelen handschoenen worden ook veel gedragen. Vaak zijn de mouwen van shirts wijd uitlopend (dit worden 'batwings' genoemd). Mannen dragen vaak een kostuum, bestaande uit een broek, gillet en (witte) blouse met ruches, geen stropdas, hierover heen worden lange, vaak zwarte mantels gedragen met een (dubbele) knoopsluiting. Puntige schoenen met gespen en hoge rijglaarzen passen goed bij de antiquity stijl. Image hosted by TinyPic.com

Cyber/Industrial Vaak zijn de muzikale voorkeur en de favoriete (kleding)stijl van goths met elkaar verbonden, zoals industrial muziek en de industrial kledingstijl. Dit is een vrij veel komende stijl, deze stijl ziet er vaak ruig en stoer uit. Eigenlijk is industrial een combinatie van fetish en cyberpunk, kenmerken van deze stijlen zijn terug te vinden in de kleding. Kledingstukken worden vaak versierd met zilverkleurige gespen. Leren schoenen met grote gespen, soms met en soms zonder hakken en hoge platform schoenen worden ook veel gedragen. Net panty's en netshirts vormen vaak een vast onderdeel van de outfit, deze kledingstukken worden gecombineerd met rokken of broeken van gewatteerde stof. Ook worden fetish-achtige kledingstukken van lak/ pvc of rubber gedragen. Image hosted by TinyPic.com

Cyber/Industrial In het haar soms hairextensions, soms ook is het haar fel gekleurd (roze, rood, blauw, groen etc.) of wordt een pruik in een felle kleur gedragen. Zwart is ook een veelvoorkomende haarkleur, soms gecombineerd met een paar hairextensions in een andere kleur. Futuristische of space-achtige details; veel zwart, ook zilver, gekleurde stoffen worden in de kleding verwerkt. Cyber/Industrial Vaak wordt een netshirt gecombineerd met een zwarte jeans. Band T-shirts worden ook vaak gecombineerd met cyberpunk/ industrial outfits. Als sieraden en accessoires worden chokers gedragen met spikes en studs, soms ook een riem met een metalen ring eraan, in de vorm van een O of een D, dit heet een bondage riem/ choker, en is bedoeld om een ketting door heen te halen, (zie ook het stukje over fetish over bondage kledingstukken) echter veel goths dragen deze accessoires niet met deze bedoeling. De make-up die gedragen wordt is heel verschillend, soms natuurlijk, soms uitbundig met veel zwart, zilver en soms kleur. Zwarte eyeliner, mascara en bleke of witte foundation worden veel gedragen. Fairy fairy goth is een aparte verschijning, het heeft misschien niet zo veel met het traditionele gothic van doen, vooral door de felle kleuren. Glitter goth/ fairy goth spreekt tot de verbeelding, het is fantasie volle kleding, ge�nspireerd op sprookjes en andere fantastische creaties zoals elfjes. Veel glanzende stoffen, gekleurd, maar ook wel zwart/ wit. Soms vleugeltjes, glitter make-up. Het geheel geeft een sprookjes/ elfjes-achtige indruk. Punk goth Punk goth is - zoals de naam al doet vermoeden - een combinatie van punk kledingstukken, zoals leren jasjes, studs en spikes, met gothic kledingstukken. Gothic kledingstukken die gecombineerd worden met punk zijn bijvoorbeeld antiquity shirts/ jurken of rokken, of industrial netshirts, -panty's en -handschoenen. Ook industrial schoenen met gespen en platforms kunnen gecombineerd worden met punk kledingstukken. Sommige punk goths dragen een duidelijk herkenbaar punk kapsel. De make-up is vaak uitbundig, donkere puntige oogschaduw en donkere lippen. Sommige mannelijke punk goths dragen ook make-up. Fetisch De fetish kledingstijl is een heel eigen, aparte stijl. De kleding is te herkennen aan de gebruikte materialen, voornamelijk pvc, lak, rubber en vinyl. Het korset is een veel gedragen kledingstuk, maar ook worden er veel catsuits, jurken en shirts en rokken van deze materialen gedragen. Soms wordt een kledingstuk van pvc, lak of een soortgelijke stof gecombineerd met kledingstukken van een andere stof, vaak wordt ook een outfit van enkel, pvc, lak, rubber en vinyl gedragen, tot en met de schoenen en accessoires aan toe. Soms zijn de kledingstukken versierd met gespen, kettingen of andere metalen details (zoals spikes en studs). De make-up is vaak zwaar, zwarte ogen en donkere lippen zijn vaak een onderdeel van de fetish look. Spice Deze stijl valt vooral op door de korte jurkjes en wijde rokjes met veel stukken geraffelde stof die worden gedragen. Het geheel doet meisjesachtig aan, soms wordt het haar gedragen in een 'my little pony kapsel': ��n of twee hoge staarten op het hoofd. Deze haarstijl wordt ook veel gedragen door fetish goths. De kleding is vaak zwart met een of meerdere kleuren zoals fuchsia, paars, roze of blauw en groen. De kleur van de kleding is afhankelijk van de persoonlijke smaak van de persoon zelf. Het haar is vaak zwart, of een andere donker kleur, met bijvoorbeeld een gekleurde pony of gekleurde stroken in het haar. Onder de korte rokjes of jurkjes wordt een panty gedragen en vaak hoge laarzen (soms tot bovenaan de benen) met vaak heel hoge hakken en platforms. Er is niet een bepaalde make-up stijl, die specifiek is voor de spice goth stijl, soms weinig make-up, maar vaak ook zwaarder, met donkere ogen, soms glitters en donkere lipstick.